17. The Healing Power of Spirit - Interview with Certified Psychic & Physical Medium Sarah Milligan

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Hi everyone, it's Chelsea Van
Buskirk with the Heart AF podcast.

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Today I have a very special
guest I'm really excited about.

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I'm gonna be bringing Sarah Milligan on.

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She is a.

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Beautiful soul.

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She is a medium and
spiritual healer, advisor.

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She's made a huge impact on my life.

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If you have heard one of my
most recent episodes, she was

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the one I was talking about.

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Sarah is the woman that came into
my life that opened my eyes to this

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whole, I would say, spiritual plane.

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And just the ability to realize, not
only like my potential, my worth, but

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to tap into some of my own spiritual
gifts and helping me heal in a lot

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of different layers of my life.

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She's just a very special person,
very dear to me, and I'm so excited

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to have her on today's episode.

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So welcome, Sarah.

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Thank you so much, Chelsea.

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Thank you for having me.

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And it's so awesome to see you again
and be sharing space with you right now.

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Thank you.

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Absolutely.

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I really miss you.

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So , this is really fun.

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I miss you too,

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to get to spend some time.

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So I wanna start off with hearing
your story and coming in to know your

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spiritual gifts and embracing the
mediumship stuff that you do, and now

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the healing, just starting the work
that you've been doing to help all

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the people you've been helping over

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these years.

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All right.

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so okay, coming into it, I definitely
had a sense of, you know, the unseen

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world when I was a kid, really little
from as far back as I can remember.

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But I didn't know what was going on.

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You know, one of my parents had to
fall asleep with me every night cause

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I was scared of the dark because
I could sense something, I knew I

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wasn't alone, but of course I didn't
have words for it at three or four.

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And I think by the age of seven or eight,
I started, Just naturally healing animals.

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I was really drawn to animals.

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I remember my German Shepherd that
I grew up with being sick, and I

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just automatically kind of got on
my knees and put my hands on her.

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But I didn't know what reiki was or
healing or energy healing or anything.

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Cause I, I think I was about eight.

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so it just came naturally,
that healing part.

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And then that kind of moved on to humans.

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And I remember people having headaches
and I was able to feel that pain.

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I just had extreme empathy for that.

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And I knew that they didn't
have to be suffering.

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again, I didn't have words for
this, but I would just kind of do

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something energetically, kind of
pull out whatever was going on and

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readjust the energy and then they
wouldn't have a headache anymore.

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And so I was that really weird
child about 8, 9, 10 years old,

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getting rid of people's headaches.

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And so it started out like that.

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And then I would, you know, as I got
a little bit older, I'd say between

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like 10 and 14, I would catch myself
having conversations in the back of my

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mind while I was doing something else,
like reading or homework or laundry.

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And I would catch myself
having conversations, but

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again, I really had no idea.

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I thought I was just talking to myself.

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Later on, obviously I found out I
was always talking to spirit, so that

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was, you know, like those early years.

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And I had a lot of psychic experiences
as well, like knowing what was gonna

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happen, knowing who was calling.

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And we all have these gifts.

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Like we are all psychic, we
are all born spirit hanging out

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in these bodies for a while.

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So just a lot of psychic
experiences happened.

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And then it really wasn't until after
I had my fourth child, , I had a

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dream and I was visited by a spirit
guide, in that dream right after

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I had my fourth child and she just
looked at me straight in the eyes.

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I'll never forget her.

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And she was like, Sarah,
you have something special.

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That's all she said.

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And when I woke up, I knew she meant
intuitively speaking, and it had

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to do with healing or mediumship
or something in this realm.

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But again, I was a newbie.

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I didn't really know anything and so I
just kind of sat with that, wrote it in

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my journal, and three days later, one of
my friends, I was living in New Jersey at

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the time, she came to me and she said, Oh
my gosh, I just had this amazing reading

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by this woman, Trish, and she's offering
an eight week beginner course for psychic

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and mediumship and intuitive development.

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Will you come with me?

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Because it's in this like old house and
I'm scared and I don't wanna go alone . So

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I was like, Okay, spirit, like you got me.

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You know?

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It was like, Three days later, she just
plopped this flyer right in front of me.

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And so I made my way into my first class
and it was a really quick, unfoldment

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we call it, into remembering these gifts.

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And then looking back on my
childhood, everything made sense and

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everything kind of fell into place
for me going, Oh, I wasn't weird.

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This is called reiki, or this
is, you know, energy healing.

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And I wasn't talking to myself.

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It was spirit and just all
these gifts unfolded very

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quickly over those eight weeks.

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And then I continued sitting
in a spiritual development

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circle every week for two years.

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And then my first teacher kind of
wouldn't let me into the advanced

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class, but I was so eager and ready
and remembering and just like ready

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to learn more and like soak it all up.

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Yeah.

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And so I felt like my confidence
was kind of shaken, in that

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like, no, you don't have it.

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Kinda like you don't got it.

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You know?

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Yeah.

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Can I ask you

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yeah.

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So did you feel an inner knowing?

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Like, you did have it, Like did you feel
that, Like you, like you knew, right?

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Like somebody else has kind of telling
you, like trying to shush you down,

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but you kind of had that inner knowing.

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Yes, definite.

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Like a, trying to squash it.

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Yeah.

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And I feel like it was a test of my
knowing, you know, looking back on it.

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And she was meant to challenge me.

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Um, but I did have this knowing,
but it wasn't strong enough.

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Like it was a nudging, It was a, an inner.

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Kind of baby knowing , you know?

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Yeah.

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And I was like, But, but I just talked
to like this person's grandmother,

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like, how could you say I don't have it?

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And I was really questioning myself,
like, how did I make that up?

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Did I make that up?

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I don't think I could make that up.

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You know, I was really questioning things.

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And so I saw a, an open circle posted
in the town next door to me, and.

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I was like, You know what,
I'm just gonna show up.

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It was an open circle with another
medium leading the circle who traveled

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from Virginia, and I was like, I'm just
gonna show up and like, see what happens.

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You know, like, check out
the other people, see if like

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I can validate my knowing.

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Yeah.

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So I went into that circle and everybody
in an open circle is going, you know, I

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feel this, I sense this, I, I'm hearing.

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And you know, people were like, I
feel a tingle on top of my head and

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I feel a cool breeze on my hand and,
you know, connecting with spirit.

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And I was like, I remember, um, This
woman was sitting next to me and I just

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felt, all of a sudden I was like, You
know, I'm seeing this woman, her name

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is Mary, she's definitely a grandmother,
energy, and she passed, you know

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of this, had difficulty breathing.

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She's wearing rainboots and jumping
in puddles and , the girl next to

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me went, That's my grandmother.

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And she was sobbing all of a sudden
and she's like, We used to, you know,

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go in the rain puddles and the rain
boots and you know, all of that.

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And she's like, Her name's Mary.

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So I was like, Okay.

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I'm like, I, I think I
have something, you know?

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Yeah.

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And the medium was looking at me
going like, Do you do this for work?

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And I laugh, I remember
it was kind of rude.

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I laughed in her face and
I, because I was like, no.

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Like, absolutely not.

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Like, what are you, what are you talking?

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She was like, Why don't
you do this for work?

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And I was like, Okay,
now I'm really confused.

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One saying, you don't got it.

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One is like, Why don't
you do this for work?

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And she thought I did it professionally.

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So I was like, You know what?

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I need a tie breaker.

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Yeah.

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I had watched Lisa Williams on, um,
she had a TV show on TV when I was in

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college, and the medium circle that I
walked into had trained with her as, I

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was like, You know what, I'm just gonna
sign up for advanced class and she's a

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straight shooter and she will tell me
whether I have it or I don't have it.

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And let her be the tiebreaker because
I'm really confused right now.

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. Yeah.

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So I did a three month course
with her and then there was a week

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long, um, certification process in
Lilydale New York with her in person.

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And I remember going through, Every day
rigorous, like I think eight to five.

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We were just going constantly
with practices and readings and

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she had these master teachers
with her that were training to be

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teachers of her programs as well.

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And I remember one, this kind of
changed everything for me, um,

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during one of those training days.

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And she said, Okay, everybody pair up.

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You guys are gonna do mediumship
readings for each other.

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There were 22 of us, 22
students in the class.

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I was like, I don't know, somebody
didn't make it back from lunch.

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So I was like the 21st
and I had no partner.

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So she's like, Oh, don't worry,
you can read for Amy, the

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master teacher that was there.

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And I was like, Oh my gosh, like
you've got to be kidding me.

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Like, no.

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So I go into the bathroom,
I pray my face off.

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And I'm like, Please,
Spirit, just help me.

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I have to read for this
master teacher right now.

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I'm so nervous because this is
a certification, like you're

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either gonna get certified or not.

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Yeah.

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So I sit down with Amy and I guess two
people came through that have never

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come through for her before ever.

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Yeah.

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Um, in all her readings and
she's in a gifted medium herself.

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Um, And she was brought to tears
and she was like, I don't cry.

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And when the reading was over,
she stood up and hugged me and

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she looked at Lisa Williams and
was like, Yeah, I'm hugging her.

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Yeah, I'm crying.

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Like, which she doesn't
do either of, you know.

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Yeah.

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So she said, And so it
was really moving for her.

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And so then we all regrouped and sat
down and Lisa was speaking to us.

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We were talking about the business,
and she was like, How much do

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you charge for reading, Sarah,
you know, asking the group.

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But she came to me and I said, I've,
I've never done a paid reading before.

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And she went, What?

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She said, If you don't start
doing readings, then you charge

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at least, you know, da, da, da.

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I'm gonna come to New Jersey
and mama there slap you.

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And like she was just like,
You are meant to do this work.

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You need to do this work.

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And then Amy was like,
Can I say something?

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And she stood up in the middle of class
and she was like, That is one of the best

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readings I've ever had in my whole life.

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You brought through two people who
have never come through before.

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You are absolutely meant to do this work.

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Like just it's.

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They were so adamant that I should
be doing it, and I still even

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then felt so scared and hesitant.

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Yeah.

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But I, it was hard to
deny everything coming in.

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Yeah.

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So that was a huge shifting point for me.

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And then the week progressed and, you
know, were going into testing day and

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Lisa walks over to me right before
my first test, we had to do three

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readings and she walks over and she's
like, I put you with my best friend.

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Don't fuck it up, . I was like, Oh no.

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Ok.

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I was like, Oh God, no pressure.

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I'm like, Oh my gosh.

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But it, um, it just, it was so
beautiful and such an affirmation

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that I was meant to be doing this.

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And so I'm grateful to Lisa and the master
teachers just so much, um, for really.

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Kicking me out of the medium
closet because part of that

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training was we had to come out
of the closet, the medium closet.

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Yeah.

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Um, and kind of, you know, uh,
announced that to our right.

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Come out orbit to the world.

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Right.

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You know, And that was not easy.

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No.

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Um, both sides of my family are really
conservative and one, you know, grew

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up Catholic, the other Presbyterian.

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Not really so open to this.

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And so I knew even just within my own
family orbit, it was gonna be difficult.

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But that was part of the training.

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And I came out of the woo closet in 2015.

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That's when I did my training with Lisa.

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And I've been serving publicly since then.

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So let's talk about that process, cuz
I think that's, that's so big, right?

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The fear of coming out to your family,
especially like your inner orbit, like

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you said, knowing that they might have
certain feelings about this kind of work.

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So why don't we talk about that, Like
what were your fears going into that?

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What was the process
like when you came out?

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Like how did you go about telling
your family Hey, um, I have these

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gifts and I'm gonna be doing this now.

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Like, how?

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Cause used to be a teacher, you
go from teaching to mediumship.

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I did.

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Okay,

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so let's, I did, I was an
elementary school teacher and

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yeah, let's hear it coming out.

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Yes.

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I went to Penn State.

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I went to the College of Education.

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I trained to be an
elementary school teacher.

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Um, got married pretty soon out
of, out of college, was teaching

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kindergarten, then second grade for
a few years and had four children.

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You know, the typical what you
think of just American life and

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what you're supposed to be doing.

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Yep.

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On this conditioned planet
and I was not aware of that

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conditioning or any of that yet.

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So Being called into start serving
spirit was a total shift in my life.

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Like a whole 180.

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but it lights up my being,
it lights up my soul.

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I knew that I was supposed to be doing
that because I love every second of it.

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it's an honor to serve
and to help people heal.

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So when I had to come out,
I think, what did I do?

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I just posted it.

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We were supposed to post on social
media, so there were no private

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conversations ,first with my family,
I just came out big on social media.

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not that I had many followers back
then, but I'm like, You know what?

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My family's seeing it, so

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that's a big deal.

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I posted like, Oh, I'm so grateful
to have trained with Lisa.

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We went through this process.

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I passed as a certified psychic
medium as spiritual advisor,

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and I'm so honored to serve.

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So that was like my
announcement and let's see.

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My dad, I feel, was the first to come
around and after I'd say about six months,

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I was doing my first big demonstration
of mediumship, like a group event.

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And he came to it.

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I was so nervous.

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I bet.

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But he came to it.

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It was my first one ever, and then
I think it was two nights in a

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row, he came to the second one.

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And since then, he's been a believer
and a really huge supporter.

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Yeah.

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Um, because he saw it firsthand.

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He witnessed it.

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Yeah.

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You can't deny it.

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So yeah, that was really awesome.

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And he is the one that would usually
have to fall asleep with me at night

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and stay there and I'm talking like
two hours, not like 10 minutes.

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Right.

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So yeah, that poor man.

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and so I would thank him in the
dems for supporting that gift.

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And even though we didn't know what
it was, He's a very big supporter now.

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The other side of the family.

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I honestly still don't
talk about it really.

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If I'm asked about it, I have no worries
sharing it whatsoever, but I also

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know my audience too, and so I don't
go around like preaching anything.

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You know, It's not my job to
change anything, anybody, or

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Absolutely.

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Right.

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like that, You know, if somebody
comes to me for healing, then

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that's, you know, they found me.

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Spirit had them find me.

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Right,

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But my mom actually just came to see me
work for the first time ever last weekend.

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Oh my gosh, that's amazing.

328
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So that is five, seven years later, right?

329
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Yeah, that I've been publicly working.

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Um, and she brought my aunt with her,
her sister and came and watched I

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had, you know, 50 people at a yoga
studio giving messages last weekend.

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And that was pretty cool to
have her there, you know?

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And to have her see me
work for the first time.

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Now she is that with me for table
before, which is different, but

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yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think , like once you witness it, you
really get a sense of how loving and

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incredibly healing this whole thing is.

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Mm-hmm.

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.
Right.

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And I think for me, I was
always nervous about it too.

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Cause I always had a strong fascination
for mediumship, but I always felt

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like this guilt, like for wanting
to watch it or witness it, you know,

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like, and I, that did come from
those kind of religious boxes or

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yeah.

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There's a lot of
connotation from religion.

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Yes.

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That these gifts, which are
gifts which Jesus had and we all

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do have, but he demonstrated.

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Then the church kind of shifted it and
changed the stories and, you know, made

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it a bad thing because they wanted the
middle man, you know, to source or to God.

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But we don't need a middle
man to source or to God.

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We're extensions of God.

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And so,

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yes,

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you can connect directly with Spirit,
with God, with your loved ones.

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And so that's just a fact, you know?

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And, and these gifts are for healing.

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That is the purpose.

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Right.

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So yes, our conditioning would say,
Oh, it's bad, it's evil, you know?

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But it's not it's like
the most natural thing.

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Yeah.

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And, and so just full of love and light.

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And that's, I think, the thing that

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mm-hmm.

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,
people like to overdramatize and
there's, you know, there's productions

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put on I think keep us in the dark.

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Right.

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And then I think, Yeah.

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Um, I mean, I don't know for people
who aren't even aware of this kind

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of stuff yet, but I know for me and
you, for people who are aware to

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this, it's this awakening process.

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Like the curtain is kind of lifted where
we , start to see the truth of mm-hmm.

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, you know, the lies and the things that
we've been kind of fed to keep us kind

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of in this controlled state and looking
for things outside of ourself, Right.

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And right.

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The truth of matter is, is God is
within us, like it's internally and,

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and we have the power to heal ourselves.

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Like we have, like you
said, we have these innate.

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Gifts.

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Absolutely.

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And it's just coming to the remembering.

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I know you

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exactly

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use those words with me
a lot too in my journey.

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And you have been an
instrumental piece in my journey.

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Like absolutely.

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Like I can't thank you enough for just
how much you've helped me open up.

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And there was something you said that I
wrote down is that you can no longer deny

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this gift because it just lit you up like.

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It lit up your soul and
there's like no denying it.

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And when you have that light, like
that passion you can't shut it down

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mm-hmm.

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,
once you get a taste of that freedom,
that love and that light that is within

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you, like, you can't let go of that.

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And you know, I think it's really sad
when you see so many people just suppress

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those pieces of themselves who don't even

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mm-hmm.

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,
they can't even feel that joy yet
because they're so scared, right?

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Right.

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, and it becomes even harder when
you're shrinking that beautiful

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light, it becomes even harder, like
it's gonna bust out of you some way.

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Right?

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Right.

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And if you're not honoring it, it's gonna
bust out of you in a negative way, right?

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Yes.

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And like numbing it or addiction or

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Yep.

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You know, that calling will
continue to like knock on your door.

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Yes.

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And so it becomes even harder
to stay, you know, tightly in

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a bud, right?

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Yes, and I think that's been a big piece
of my journey and a big piece of what my

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mission is like with this podcast, with
me speaking out is I can't see another

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person like end their life early because
of addiction or because they're so afraid

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of being themselves that they choose

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to end their life here on Earth.

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Like, I've seen that happen so many times.

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And, um, this was an epiphany I just
had literally in the last day, which

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is so crazy because I've been trying
to figure out like, what am I doing?

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Like, what, what do I say I do?

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I don't know yet what I'm doing.

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00:19:13,882 --> 00:19:16,352
, but that's part of it, is this
message, this mission to help

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people real realize like their

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mm-hmm.

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possibility.

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And to, hold on and, and break through
the way that they're caging themselves

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in like the remaining tight in a bud.

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And I know for me specifically, you saw
this, you saw me as that person that I

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was just suppressing myself and it was
coming out in anger and irritability

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and my relationships were failing.

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Like it was so, Draining.

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My soul was dying.

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And I will never forget one of
the readings, or I think it was a

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spiritual counseling session we had
where you said, Do your kids wanna

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see caged mommy or happy mommy?

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And that like just really hit
so hard because it's so true.

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It's like sometimes we feel like we
have to suppress ourselves for our

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families or for our kids, but what are we
teaching our kids when we're doing that?

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And that was so big for me, is that I
want all my children to know that they

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should be true to themselves and not be
mm-hmm watering down for others or to

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fit in certain boxes or to do what society
tells us we need to do to be acceptable.

444
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Right.

445
00:20:16,586 --> 00:20:19,336
So let's kind of shift gears though
a little bit cuz , not only have you

446
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made an impact on me obviously we've
been talking about that, but , I

447
00:20:21,831 --> 00:20:25,306
know you've seen firsthand so many
people that you've been able to help.

448
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I would love if you could share one of
the most significant healings you've

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witnessed or been a part of, if you can
illustrate to the audience how impactful

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these healing sessions can be for people.

451
00:20:36,241 --> 00:20:38,851
And how maybe this healing process
works when you are being the

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conduit or that facilitator of the
healing that comes from spirit and

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00:20:42,331 --> 00:20:43,681
helping the clients that you serve.

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Sure.

455
00:20:44,423 --> 00:20:48,553
Yeah, in recent years, really the
last three years, the mediumship

456
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is for healing, but there's also
been a shift towards physical

457
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healing and then mental, emotional
and spiritual healing happens as.

458
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Um, and that's coming through
energy healing and spirit is,

459
00:21:01,068 --> 00:21:02,388
of course, doing that work.

460
00:21:02,393 --> 00:21:07,758
So I am the space holder, you know, I'm
the, just the channel, um, that spirit is

461
00:21:07,763 --> 00:21:12,048
using and then they're working directly
on the person as well, so that can happen.

462
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In a one on one session or that
can happen in a group session.

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And those group sessions are
the spirit healing circles.

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00:21:18,948 --> 00:21:20,328
that we haven't talked about yet.

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That's kind of the next step after that
mental mediumship that we talked about.

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Because I'm also a physical medium, and
so physical mediumship is where everybody

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in the room is experiencing and feeling.

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Or seeing or hearing spirit together.

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They don't need me as the
medium because Spirit is

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communicating directly with them.

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00:21:38,603 --> 00:21:42,533
We use a table sometimes, and that
table, you know, the loved ones come

472
00:21:42,538 --> 00:21:47,213
in the table, takes on the personality
of that loved one that's in spirit.

473
00:21:47,243 --> 00:21:51,863
And so, you know, like little sweet
grandma comes in and gently, you know,

474
00:21:51,863 --> 00:21:56,213
rocks the table and pushes it over
and hugs, you know, the granddaughter.

475
00:21:57,338 --> 00:21:59,348
You can feel them in the room.

476
00:21:59,408 --> 00:22:03,068
And that intention is always for
healing in all of those circles.

477
00:22:03,068 --> 00:22:06,558
So everybody that walks in receives
healing, for whatever they have

478
00:22:06,558 --> 00:22:09,708
asked for or what Spirit knows
because they know what we need

479
00:22:09,713 --> 00:22:11,058
and what's for our highest good.

480
00:22:11,478 --> 00:22:14,928
So the healing can come in
the form of heart healing.

481
00:22:14,958 --> 00:22:19,938
You know, emotional healing from grief
and loss to feel your loved one again.

482
00:22:20,358 --> 00:22:23,568
But those healings can also come
in the form of physical healing.

483
00:22:25,363 --> 00:22:31,353
I'd say the last two years, even
three years, people who have had, um,

484
00:22:31,863 --> 00:22:39,423
who've been dealing with, um, chronic
illnesses or mystery illnesses, spirit

485
00:22:39,423 --> 00:22:43,863
is bringing them to me and it's like
they've exhausted all other possibilities

486
00:22:44,283 --> 00:22:46,063
and treatments and medicines.

487
00:22:46,068 --> 00:22:47,703
I mean, years we're talking years.

488
00:22:47,703 --> 00:22:50,733
I worked with a woman last
week that had been on this

489
00:22:50,733 --> 00:22:52,663
journey for 10 years to try and.

490
00:22:53,178 --> 00:22:58,248
And in one session, Spirit was like, Do
this, this, this, this, and this, and give

491
00:22:58,248 --> 00:23:00,318
it three months because you're dedicated.

492
00:23:00,318 --> 00:23:04,188
So it's only gonna take three months, not
nine or 12 months, and you'll be good.

493
00:23:04,193 --> 00:23:05,088
Your pain will be gone.

494
00:23:05,908 --> 00:23:06,663
and she's doing awesome.

495
00:23:06,663 --> 00:23:09,183
It's been about, it wasn't last
week, it's been about a month because

496
00:23:09,183 --> 00:23:11,163
she's already seeing an improvement.

497
00:23:11,463 --> 00:23:14,583
So it's, it's happening on all
different levels, but it's happening

498
00:23:14,583 --> 00:23:16,353
in those spirit healing circles.

499
00:23:16,683 --> 00:23:20,643
Um, and yes, it can happen one on
one, but spirit can reach more people

500
00:23:20,648 --> 00:23:22,353
when it happens in that group setting.

501
00:23:22,803 --> 00:23:22,983
Right.

502
00:23:23,283 --> 00:23:23,343
So

503
00:23:23,348 --> 00:23:24,753
there's like a collective energy, right?

504
00:23:24,783 --> 00:23:28,953
Like when you get more people in there,
like, it's almost like the energy

505
00:23:28,953 --> 00:23:32,433
of every person in the group also
helps like build that energy, right?

506
00:23:32,433 --> 00:23:33,033
Is that right?

507
00:23:33,033 --> 00:23:34,503
Like you kind of use a collect.

508
00:23:35,403 --> 00:23:38,583
Space or, Yeah, so the, so
the healing guides that work

509
00:23:38,583 --> 00:23:40,233
with me could work anywhere.

510
00:23:40,233 --> 00:23:44,703
So whether it's one on one or the circle,
but there is something to be said for

511
00:23:44,703 --> 00:23:50,643
the others in the circle to to be sitting
together and have that comradery and

512
00:23:50,643 --> 00:23:54,723
that support with each other and to
be witnessing healings for each other.

513
00:23:54,723 --> 00:23:58,353
So that definitely adds to like the
love, you know, the love fest in

514
00:23:58,353 --> 00:24:00,393
the room and the energy in the room.

515
00:24:00,393 --> 00:24:01,133
Definitely.

516
00:24:01,208 --> 00:24:04,238
There was, a 15 year old girl.

517
00:24:04,288 --> 00:24:09,378
I had done a reading for her mother,
years ago, and then she contacted

518
00:24:09,378 --> 00:24:11,478
me again for some more readings.

519
00:24:11,478 --> 00:24:15,048
Her 15 year old daughter was struggling
with an eating disorder and she

520
00:24:15,048 --> 00:24:16,758
had gone to residential treatment.

521
00:24:16,758 --> 00:24:20,353
She had done, you know, everything
you can think of to support her

522
00:24:20,353 --> 00:24:25,123
daughter in healing and things
would help but not heal it.

523
00:24:25,693 --> 00:24:32,593
And so they drove up from Maryland to Cape
Cod and we did one-on-one energy healing.

524
00:24:32,623 --> 00:24:36,583
And then their family sat in a
spirit healing circle like we were

525
00:24:36,583 --> 00:24:38,233
just talking about with the table.

526
00:24:38,543 --> 00:24:40,403
, and her spirit guides came through.

527
00:24:40,653 --> 00:24:45,996
Even, a connection from a past life
came through as a guide to really

528
00:24:46,026 --> 00:24:50,496
hook her into her spirit and her
being and remind her of who she is.

529
00:24:50,708 --> 00:24:55,388
And then we did some more healing the
next day with her and with mom and

530
00:24:55,388 --> 00:25:00,428
spirit had said, in about three months
it will be pretty much gone and you

531
00:25:00,428 --> 00:25:02,078
won't have to worry about her anymore.

532
00:25:02,078 --> 00:25:05,968
And on that three month mark, I think
within days, all of a sudden she was

533
00:25:05,968 --> 00:25:09,208
okay and no more eating disorder,
and that was a couple years ago.

534
00:25:09,208 --> 00:25:11,998
And still to this day, she's
getting ready to go off to college,

535
00:25:12,268 --> 00:25:12,388
wow.

536
00:25:12,468 --> 00:25:13,428
Totally okay.

537
00:25:13,433 --> 00:25:17,628
And free of that when it had like a really
strong grip on her for a couple years.

538
00:25:18,051 --> 00:25:19,815
SO that was one of the
things that I witnessed.

539
00:25:19,815 --> 00:25:21,375
But again, this is all spirit.

540
00:25:21,645 --> 00:25:25,415
This is spirit coming through,
working, and tapping in to

541
00:25:25,415 --> 00:25:27,235
remind you of who you are.

542
00:25:27,835 --> 00:25:30,140
So there's nothing wrong
with anybody, right?

543
00:25:30,140 --> 00:25:30,230
Yes.

544
00:25:30,230 --> 00:25:36,140
Like everybody is a perfect extension of
God, and the healing really is a removal

545
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:43,875
of the conditioning of, limiting beliefs
of old, of conditioned patterns, of, you

546
00:25:43,875 --> 00:25:47,715
know, all these blocks to love really,
because that's what we are as spirit.

547
00:25:48,135 --> 00:25:50,505
And so all healing is that removal.

548
00:25:50,805 --> 00:25:53,925
It's like wiping away like
the, fog on a mirror.

549
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,110
So that you can see your full
reflection and your divinity.

550
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:03,030
Um, and so that's what Spirit is doing
when they're working with people.

551
00:26:03,460 --> 00:26:04,690
It's been really beautiful.

552
00:26:04,690 --> 00:26:08,020
Just amazing stuff that they
can do and anything is possible

553
00:26:08,020 --> 00:26:09,100
and I can hear them now.

554
00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:14,740
So it's like they want everybody to
know that anything is possible, right?

555
00:26:14,740 --> 00:26:14,800
Yeah.

556
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,760
Like if it's in your plan to own your
truth and live authentically and

557
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:23,310
live a long life and be here, it's
possible the doors open for you.

558
00:26:23,620 --> 00:26:25,960
It's really removing
those blocks to healing.

559
00:26:26,290 --> 00:26:29,890
There's another story I want to share
cuz I just, it just came in yesterday.

560
00:26:30,865 --> 00:26:34,825
And it was from a spirit healing circle
in New Jersey just a couple weeks ago.

561
00:26:35,095 --> 00:26:39,235
And this is more of the emotional
healing and what it can do for the grief.

562
00:26:39,745 --> 00:26:44,425
So I had a reading with somebody in
New Jersey, let's say a few months

563
00:26:44,425 --> 00:26:49,780
ago, and her daughter came through
who passed of cancer around age 26.

564
00:26:49,888 --> 00:26:54,008
And, she came through in the reading
and at the end of the reading she

565
00:26:54,008 --> 00:26:55,508
said, There's something with a rainbow.

566
00:26:55,508 --> 00:26:58,748
She kept showing me rainbows, but
there was no immediate connection.

567
00:26:58,928 --> 00:27:00,578
So that falls into that 10%.

568
00:27:00,578 --> 00:27:02,978
That's gonna show up later
because Spirit likes that.

569
00:27:03,398 --> 00:27:07,203
So I was like, I don't know, she's telling
me something with the rainbow is going

570
00:27:07,203 --> 00:27:08,913
to happen and it's gonna be significant.

571
00:27:09,273 --> 00:27:10,503
So that was a few months ago.

572
00:27:10,713 --> 00:27:14,823
Then a few weeks ago, I'm in New Jersey
for the Healing Circle and this mom who

573
00:27:14,823 --> 00:27:16,680
lost her daughter is coming to circle.

574
00:27:16,740 --> 00:27:17,730
So we're all sitting there.

575
00:27:17,730 --> 00:27:21,700
There's, eight people around the
table and we have a playlist that

576
00:27:21,700 --> 00:27:23,740
plays, but they didn't send me songs.

577
00:27:23,770 --> 00:27:25,000
I channeled the playlist.

578
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,690
So I was just playing random songs.

579
00:27:27,110 --> 00:27:32,790
And in that, playlist was somewhere over
the rainbow, but the Hawaiian version.

580
00:27:33,030 --> 00:27:33,300
Yep.

581
00:27:33,630 --> 00:27:34,200
And.

582
00:27:34,755 --> 00:27:38,265
All of a sudden the table lifted
up and it started spelling, and

583
00:27:38,265 --> 00:27:39,885
it's spelled out to the letter G.

584
00:27:40,185 --> 00:27:41,655
Her daughter's name was Gabby.

585
00:27:42,435 --> 00:27:44,955
So I'm thinking in my
head, Oh, is this Gabby?

586
00:27:45,225 --> 00:27:50,055
And then somewhere over the rainbow
came on, and in the beginning of the

587
00:27:50,055 --> 00:27:52,905
song he goes, Hey, this one's for Gabby.

588
00:27:53,790 --> 00:27:58,080
And then, oh my gosh,
none of us ever knew that.

589
00:27:58,260 --> 00:27:59,400
Ever, ever.

590
00:27:59,470 --> 00:28:04,450
The mom was like, We always used to watch
50 First Dates, that song is in there.

591
00:28:04,570 --> 00:28:04,890
Yeah.

592
00:28:04,890 --> 00:28:05,770
I never knew that.

593
00:28:05,770 --> 00:28:08,020
He said, This song's for
Gabby in the beginning.

594
00:28:08,133 --> 00:28:09,093
Like ever.

595
00:28:09,153 --> 00:28:11,103
She just placed it in that moment.

596
00:28:11,103 --> 00:28:12,543
She was like, That's my Gabby.

597
00:28:12,543 --> 00:28:16,813
She just spelled out to g the songs on
and we all heard, hey, this one's for,

598
00:28:16,833 --> 00:28:19,353
Gabby, and the table moved over to her.

599
00:28:19,353 --> 00:28:23,313
It was her daughter, hugged her,
loved her, gave her healing.

600
00:28:23,583 --> 00:28:24,753
It was so beautiful.

601
00:28:24,753 --> 00:28:27,183
I have goosebumps right
now just remembering it.

602
00:28:27,423 --> 00:28:30,923
And she is, you know, crying because
she can feel her daughter in the

603
00:28:30,928 --> 00:28:34,813
room and it's just so beautiful
and amazing and I would just

604
00:28:35,163 --> 00:28:39,108
love for people to understand that
there's so much more than what

605
00:28:39,108 --> 00:28:40,998
we see with our physical eyes.

606
00:28:41,388 --> 00:28:45,048
Like the unseen world
is an absolute given.

607
00:28:45,268 --> 00:28:50,308
It's an absolute truth and your
loved ones are there and they live

608
00:28:50,308 --> 00:28:55,168
on and they are constantly trying to
communicate with you and support you

609
00:28:55,168 --> 00:29:00,628
and love you and guide you, and so
that was just a really awesome rainbow.

610
00:29:00,688 --> 00:29:03,838
You know, she had mentioned Rainbow
three months prior and we had no

611
00:29:03,838 --> 00:29:05,098
idea what she was talking about.

612
00:29:05,458 --> 00:29:06,508
That was the rainbow.

613
00:29:07,048 --> 00:29:07,258
Yeah.

614
00:29:07,288 --> 00:29:10,048
Cause we didn't know that he
said this songs for Gabby.

615
00:29:10,438 --> 00:29:11,368
It's so cool.

616
00:29:11,373 --> 00:29:11,988
It's just amazing.

617
00:29:12,028 --> 00:29:12,928
It is amazing.

618
00:29:12,958 --> 00:29:13,228
Yeah.

619
00:29:13,228 --> 00:29:16,078
And while you were telling that
like my body lit up, like I had

620
00:29:16,078 --> 00:29:17,908
goosebumps, my hair like it's awesome.

621
00:29:18,368 --> 00:29:20,388
I wanna bring up something
cuz you mentioned it.

622
00:29:21,068 --> 00:29:22,388
Maybe people don't know this already.

623
00:29:22,388 --> 00:29:26,558
I know I knew what you meant, but you
said that 10%, um, which I know means

624
00:29:26,558 --> 00:29:30,038
that you know when spirit comes through
and they're giving you a message, 90% you

625
00:29:30,038 --> 00:29:32,408
should be able to validate and understand.

626
00:29:32,408 --> 00:29:36,338
But there's that 10% that might not make
sense to you, but it'll make sense later.

627
00:29:36,678 --> 00:29:38,558
So I don't know if you wanna
let people know what it's like

628
00:29:38,558 --> 00:29:40,138
when you're giving a reading

629
00:29:40,508 --> 00:29:41,048
yeah.

630
00:29:41,048 --> 00:29:45,168
So when you have a session, so if it's
mental mediumship, I'm the one connecting

631
00:29:45,168 --> 00:29:49,698
with spirit and I'm describing everything
that I'm seeing and hearing and feeling.

632
00:29:49,938 --> 00:29:55,458
So they'll communicate by impressing
feelings on my body or giving me

633
00:29:55,463 --> 00:29:57,948
vision, you know, or images in my mind.

634
00:29:58,668 --> 00:30:02,508
Because they use our imagination or
I'll hear them, but it's like reading

635
00:30:02,508 --> 00:30:05,748
a sentence in a book hearing, not
like you're hearing my physical voice.

636
00:30:06,048 --> 00:30:07,428
So it's very subtle.

637
00:30:07,758 --> 00:30:11,508
So I will give you everything that's
coming through in a reading and

638
00:30:11,508 --> 00:30:14,928
you should understand 90% of the
information coming through, which

639
00:30:14,928 --> 00:30:18,078
is certainly enough information to
understand who's speaking to you.

640
00:30:18,618 --> 00:30:21,438
But that other 10% that can be fuzzy.

641
00:30:22,263 --> 00:30:29,143
Tends to show up later, or if Spirit asks
you to be a messenger for, let's say your

642
00:30:29,143 --> 00:30:33,043
mother-in-law is coming through, right,
but your husband's not in the room to

643
00:30:33,043 --> 00:30:38,263
validate some of the memories that she
might be talking about, that information

644
00:30:38,263 --> 00:30:42,313
falls in that 10% because it's something
you need to go check with your husband on.

645
00:30:42,823 --> 00:30:43,633
To validate.

646
00:30:43,813 --> 00:30:45,613
So that's what that 10% is.

647
00:30:46,183 --> 00:30:49,483
Um, but 90% you should
understand in the moment.

648
00:30:50,533 --> 00:30:52,333
And enough to understand
who's coming through.

649
00:30:52,363 --> 00:30:52,843
For sure.

650
00:30:53,243 --> 00:30:58,093
What would be like your one message that
you feel is super important to leave

651
00:30:58,243 --> 00:30:58,683
yeah.

652
00:30:59,093 --> 00:31:01,193
So there are two things
coming in right now.

653
00:31:01,193 --> 00:31:07,763
It feels like one of the messages as you
ask that question is Spirit would want

654
00:31:07,763 --> 00:31:13,755
everybody listening to have hope, to
know that there is a reason to have hope.

655
00:31:13,888 --> 00:31:17,273
That they can heal, that
they can feel better again,

656
00:31:17,273 --> 00:31:19,043
that they can feel joy again.

657
00:31:19,403 --> 00:31:24,443
That they can reengage in life
if they're in grief, that their

658
00:31:24,443 --> 00:31:26,213
loved ones want them to live.

659
00:31:26,213 --> 00:31:29,753
It honors them, to have them living
and smiling and laughing again.

660
00:31:30,203 --> 00:31:36,353
Just that hope because the door is
wide open for everybody to receive

661
00:31:36,353 --> 00:31:42,023
healing and to feel good and whole
and happy again after grief, after

662
00:31:42,023 --> 00:31:44,213
loss, after sickness, anything.

663
00:31:44,633 --> 00:31:47,903
So just that hope that's
coming through so strongly.

664
00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:51,953
It's possible the door is open,
It's always open for healing.

665
00:31:52,433 --> 00:31:57,863
And then the other piece coming
through is really living authentically.

666
00:31:57,868 --> 00:31:59,903
And that is so not easy.

667
00:31:59,903 --> 00:32:00,803
It's not easy.

668
00:32:00,803 --> 00:32:06,035
I am still working on it, but being
authentic to who you are because it's

669
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,325
so much better for yourself and for
everybody on the planet if you just

670
00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:16,195
own who you are because every single
person came onto this planet, into this

671
00:32:16,195 --> 00:32:21,738
planet with gifts, with certain skill
sets, and they're meant to be shared.

672
00:32:22,128 --> 00:32:25,638
And if we keep ignoring it and we
don't share it right, it kind of

673
00:32:25,638 --> 00:32:30,538
dies within us, or it bugs us until
it will come out and we listen.

674
00:32:30,928 --> 00:32:33,568
But it's meant to be
shared with the world.

675
00:32:33,568 --> 00:32:37,408
Those gifts are meant to be shared,
and that light is meant to be shared

676
00:32:37,413 --> 00:32:40,738
because it causes so many ripple
effects that you will never see.

677
00:32:41,128 --> 00:32:41,878
But it does.

678
00:32:41,998 --> 00:32:45,148
It goes on and on, you know,
when you share your light and

679
00:32:45,148 --> 00:32:46,348
your truth with the world.

680
00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:52,808
And coming out wise, you know, as a
medium was hard as well, for my two

681
00:32:52,808 --> 00:32:54,488
conservative sides of the family.

682
00:32:54,698 --> 00:32:55,298
Absolutely.

683
00:32:55,298 --> 00:32:55,448
Yeah.

684
00:32:55,448 --> 00:33:01,538
Being completely judged and spirit
is like we, we want everybody to

685
00:33:01,538 --> 00:33:03,218
be happy and live authentically.

686
00:33:03,548 --> 00:33:03,728
Right?

687
00:33:03,728 --> 00:33:08,803
Like that is what Spirit would ask
of you is to live in alignment with

688
00:33:08,803 --> 00:33:11,723
your own soul and truth and being.

689
00:33:11,766 --> 00:33:17,100
Because your joy creates so many more
ripple effects than you shrinking

690
00:33:17,100 --> 00:33:20,960
and keeping yourself in a box so
that you look good for mom and dad.

691
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:21,720
Right?

692
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:22,110
Right.

693
00:33:22,125 --> 00:33:26,335
And then you're 95 and you're looking
back on your life and you're like, Shit,

694
00:33:26,485 --> 00:33:29,785
I didn't do anything because I was so
worried about what mom and dad thought.

695
00:33:30,325 --> 00:33:30,565
Right.

696
00:33:30,565 --> 00:33:31,645
You know, like really?

697
00:33:31,645 --> 00:33:31,705
Yeah.

698
00:33:31,885 --> 00:33:33,505
I mean, it happens all the time.

699
00:33:33,535 --> 00:33:34,245
Yeah, absolutely.

700
00:33:34,245 --> 00:33:38,425
So I would much rather look back and be
like, Damn, that was an awesome life.

701
00:33:38,455 --> 00:33:42,365
You know, like I served,
I used my gifts, and

702
00:33:42,365 --> 00:33:42,655
yes,

703
00:33:43,005 --> 00:33:43,225
that.

704
00:33:43,225 --> 00:33:44,285
was Totally.

705
00:33:44,285 --> 00:33:44,545
Okay.

706
00:33:44,835 --> 00:33:45,650
That was fine.

707
00:33:45,650 --> 00:33:50,710
Like I busted out of my conditioning
and I'm happy and joyful and my

708
00:33:50,715 --> 00:33:53,900
kids are happy and joyful, and I
want them to live authentically.

709
00:33:53,950 --> 00:33:54,430
Yeah.

710
00:33:54,430 --> 00:33:57,200
And to welcome everything
and anything like who they

711
00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,390
are , who they were born as.

712
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:00,050
Right.

713
00:34:00,050 --> 00:34:02,210
So yeah, those two things.

714
00:34:02,210 --> 00:34:03,890
Hope and living authentically.

715
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:04,910
Beautiful.

716
00:34:04,940 --> 00:34:05,330
Love it.

717
00:34:05,330 --> 00:34:09,390
I've got goosebumps everywhere
because this is just Such a perfect,

718
00:34:09,570 --> 00:34:13,830
conversation that we held and I think
just echos so many of the points that

719
00:34:13,830 --> 00:34:17,515
I've been stressing in each episode
that's been before and will continue.

720
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:21,180
Like that's a big part of the message,
this living authentically piece and Wayne

721
00:34:21,185 --> 00:34:24,210
Dyer's quote that he used to say was,
Don't die with the music still in you.

722
00:34:24,510 --> 00:34:27,750
And so that's basically, that
beautiful music that you have to share

723
00:34:27,750 --> 00:34:30,420
with the world that you, like you
said, can cause that ripple effect.

724
00:34:30,420 --> 00:34:32,520
Like you don't even know the
impact that you can make.

725
00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:33,060
Yeah,

726
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,980
And those things that you have to offer
the world, how they can touch somebody and

727
00:34:36,980 --> 00:34:40,460
help somebody else and create this ripple
effect that you aren't even aware of.

728
00:34:40,465 --> 00:34:42,935
and not everybody's
going to understand that.

729
00:34:42,965 --> 00:34:45,275
Not everybody's going
to understand your gift.

730
00:34:45,425 --> 00:34:48,455
I mean, people look at me like I
have 10 heads if I'm like, Yeah,

731
00:34:48,635 --> 00:34:49,895
I can communicate with spirit.

732
00:34:50,225 --> 00:34:51,605
But to me it's a given.

733
00:34:51,605 --> 00:34:55,175
It's a known, It's like they'll
eventually understand that

734
00:34:55,175 --> 00:34:57,095
truth about the unseen world.

735
00:34:57,095 --> 00:35:00,035
They're just not gonna understand it
right now or not in this lifetime.

736
00:35:00,515 --> 00:35:00,605
Right.

737
00:35:00,605 --> 00:35:03,995
And so not everybody will understand
it, but you're still meant to do it.

738
00:35:04,361 --> 00:35:07,421
I think that's beautiful and oh,
you know, another thing that I

739
00:35:07,421 --> 00:35:10,221
wanna highlight, and something that
I always stress was, that there's

740
00:35:10,221 --> 00:35:11,301
nothing wrong with us, right?

741
00:35:11,301 --> 00:35:12,231
Like, you're not broken.

742
00:35:12,231 --> 00:35:16,551
Like just because you have these scars
and experiences or you're perceived

743
00:35:16,551 --> 00:35:18,351
mistakes, you're not like a bad apple.

744
00:35:18,351 --> 00:35:20,361
Like you're still whole and
perfect in the eyes of God.

745
00:35:20,361 --> 00:35:20,931
You know what I mean?

746
00:35:20,931 --> 00:35:23,121
Like you're completely perfect
absolutely to where you are and

747
00:35:23,121 --> 00:35:24,741
a hundred percent accepted and

748
00:35:24,786 --> 00:35:25,626
that's another barrier.

749
00:35:25,631 --> 00:35:30,546
I'm trying to, break, and not
preach, but just share this, opinion

750
00:35:30,546 --> 00:35:30,886
it's a truth

751
00:35:30,886 --> 00:35:31,206
or philosophy

752
00:35:31,206 --> 00:35:32,246
it's a truth

753
00:35:32,246 --> 00:35:33,496
to see if anybody can see it.

754
00:35:33,506 --> 00:35:35,486
I feel like there's a lot of people
that like to tell you like, you're

755
00:35:35,486 --> 00:35:38,211
born a sinner or you're guilty or
you have to repent, or, you know,

756
00:35:38,216 --> 00:35:39,351
you have to prove your worth.

757
00:35:39,651 --> 00:35:39,771
Right.

758
00:35:39,771 --> 00:35:42,791
But that's so all religion
trying to take control

759
00:35:43,191 --> 00:35:44,061
Exactly

760
00:35:44,241 --> 00:35:46,101
like this fear and trying to control.

761
00:35:46,791 --> 00:35:50,181
Yeah, box you in and it's like, no, you're
beautiful and whole, just as you are.

762
00:35:50,181 --> 00:35:51,441
You don't have to do anything.

763
00:35:51,471 --> 00:35:55,521
You don't have to prove yourself like you
are totally perfect just the way you are.

764
00:35:55,941 --> 00:35:56,451
So,

765
00:35:56,451 --> 00:35:59,086
sorry to get riled up again,
but yeah, so beautiful.

766
00:35:59,696 --> 00:36:00,986
That's true, it's true.

767
00:36:01,116 --> 00:36:05,187
I know it's easy to get passionate and
worked up about it just because I can see

768
00:36:05,192 --> 00:36:09,636
how it negatively impacts a lot of lives
and one person, one message at a time

769
00:36:09,636 --> 00:36:14,736
to just hopefully awaken and bring more
people to their joyous state and giving

770
00:36:14,736 --> 00:36:16,326
them permission to live authentically.

771
00:36:16,746 --> 00:36:20,766
Thank you so much for making the
time to be here and spend time with

772
00:36:20,766 --> 00:36:23,226
me having this amazing conversation.

773
00:36:23,226 --> 00:36:28,256
And for anyone who's interested, Sarah
does do virtual healings and readings

774
00:36:28,276 --> 00:36:29,356
you don't have to be in person.

775
00:36:29,356 --> 00:36:34,336
She is in Cape Cod and she regularly holds
events in New Jersey and Cape Cod, right?

776
00:36:34,336 --> 00:36:35,386
It'll be on her website.

777
00:36:35,386 --> 00:36:38,706
You can find when she does events for
in person, but if you're not near her,

778
00:36:38,711 --> 00:36:40,776
she does stuff through Zoom or the phone.

779
00:36:41,076 --> 00:36:43,236
I've had many healing sessions
through her, virtually,

780
00:36:43,236 --> 00:36:44,496
like Spirit knows no bounds,

781
00:36:44,496 --> 00:36:44,656
mm-hmm.

782
00:36:44,736 --> 00:36:45,406
,
you can't contain spirit.

783
00:36:45,406 --> 00:36:46,216
It goes anywhere.

784
00:36:46,216 --> 00:36:48,736
And, I've received some really
powerful healing sessions,

785
00:36:48,736 --> 00:36:49,666
literally through the phone.

786
00:36:49,946 --> 00:36:51,206
And it's been amazing.

787
00:36:51,211 --> 00:36:54,576
So, Sarah, do you wanna share your
website information where people can

788
00:36:54,576 --> 00:36:56,326
find you, and get a session with you?

789
00:36:56,376 --> 00:36:57,036
Absolutely.

790
00:36:57,036 --> 00:36:58,536
Thank you for having me, Chelsea.

791
00:36:58,536 --> 00:37:00,936
I really appreciate it and
so good to see you again.

792
00:37:01,276 --> 00:37:08,021
My website is SarahMilliganWellness.com
and I'm on Facebook, SarahMilliganMedium

793
00:37:08,131 --> 00:37:10,111
and same on Instagram.

794
00:37:10,116 --> 00:37:12,816
I have a healing circle coming
up in Cape Cod next week.

795
00:37:12,816 --> 00:37:13,986
They're usually once a month.

796
00:37:13,986 --> 00:37:15,036
And then New Jersey.

797
00:37:15,036 --> 00:37:19,796
I have four circles in a row,
December 8th to the 11th and there

798
00:37:20,046 --> 00:37:21,601
are two seats left, in New Jersey.

799
00:37:21,682 --> 00:37:24,493
And Zoom definitely works the same way.

800
00:37:24,493 --> 00:37:27,313
As Chelsea said, There's no space
or time in the spirit world.

801
00:37:27,613 --> 00:37:30,133
You can be anywhere and
they will be working on you.

802
00:37:30,193 --> 00:37:33,373
So I'd be happy to help anybody that

803
00:37:33,813 --> 00:37:34,623
is looking for it.

804
00:37:35,033 --> 00:37:35,493
Yes.

805
00:37:35,603 --> 00:37:36,498
Well, she's amazing.

806
00:37:36,498 --> 00:37:37,338
I can vouch for her.

807
00:37:37,338 --> 00:37:40,098
She's brilliant and has
helped me in so many ways.

808
00:37:40,498 --> 00:37:41,428
Thanks for listening.

809
00:37:41,428 --> 00:37:42,028
Thanks Chelsea.

810
00:37:42,108 --> 00:37:45,378
I will post Sarah's, social
media links and her website in

811
00:37:45,378 --> 00:37:46,848
the description of this podcast.

812
00:37:47,058 --> 00:37:51,798
You can find me, Chelsea, at my website,
chelseavanbuskirk.com, or on Facebook

813
00:37:51,798 --> 00:37:56,628
or Instagram @chelsea.vanbuskirk
and I'll see you guys all next week.

814
00:37:56,628 --> 00:37:59,355
Thank you so much for being
here with me and Sarah, and.

815
00:37:59,355 --> 00:38:00,135
That is all.

816
00:38:00,195 --> 00:38:00,705
Thank you,

817
00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:01,795
.
Thank you.